UN4 on the PS3

[jmk1999]

Well, as someone who owns only a PS3, and an 80 GB one at that... I do hope that Namco-Bandai gets on the updates for it to work on the PS3 quickly. I had to wait like 3 or 4 months after buying UN3. The thing was down to like $35 by the time I could actually play it... blah! I don't think that the ryo and the bonus little collectable figure for preordering were worth $15 plus tax in the end.

[spicyramen08]

The updates for the PS3 are often time consuming, but I'm going to expect Sony to be ahead of the game this time and have everything working just fine. There's no way they deliberately want to delay the gamer's experience.*Good luck!

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[jmk1999]

hope you're right. we'll see. i'm sure there's alot more people with the same issues that i'm having. i mean, come on! this is shippuden!

[DanteVice]

i only own a ps2 so im happy with what its coming out on...i guess every system has there own special game of naruto

[TigerC10]

You can't "update" a PS2 game on the PS3. *The 80GB PS3s had 1 software update for all PS2 titles, you probably just didn't download that before you played Ultimate Ninja 3.

[jmk1999]

TIGERC10 wrote:
You can't "update" a PS2 game on the PS3. *The 80GB PS3s had 1 software update for all PS2 titles, you probably just didn't download that before you played Ultimate Ninja 3.




no... you don't exactly have it right there... because the games aren't out yet, you have to periodically download updates with each new software update. that requires the developers to create patches for their ps2 games and submit them to sony in time for the next updates. one update to begin with does NOT mean every game is gonna work. i've experienced this on numerous occasions. the update for the system occured about a week prior to UN3 being released and it didn't work right still. the game began to play, but it locked up in the opening scenes of the story mode. it didn't play correctly for months afterward. i know what i'm talkin about here.



you can view the compatibility status of ps2 and ps1 games that are already released here:

http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus


btw, the single update you're thinking of is most likely the 60 GB with the emotion chip. From what I understand, it didn't work correctly at first and required an update. Now every game is playable on the 60 GB only... quite unfortunate when I could have gotten one at the time... I didn't realize there was a difference and that you could easily change out the HD. Wishing I had done that back then... oh well...

[TigerC10]

JMK1999 wrote:


no... you don't exactly have it right there... because the games aren't out yet, you have to periodically download updates with each new software update. that requires the developers to create patches for their ps2 games and submit them to sony in time for the next updates. one update to begin with does NOT mean every game is gonna work. i've experienced this on numerous occasions. the update for the system occured about a week prior to UN3 being released and it didn't work right still. the game began to play, but it locked up in the opening scenes of the story mode. it didn't play correctly for months afterward. i know what i'm talkin about here.



you can view the compatibility status of ps2 and ps1 games that are already released here:

http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus


btw, the single update you're thinking of is most likely the 60 GB with the emotion chip. From what I understand, it didn't work correctly at first and required an update. Now every game is playable on the 60 GB only... quite unfortunate when I could have gotten one at the time... I didn't realize there was a difference and that you could easily change out the HD. Wishing I had done that back then... oh well...



Actually, I do have it right. *You can't update a singular PS2 game. *Namco/Bandai can't give Sony any update programs for an individual PS2 game. *The reason why is because the PS3 doesn't know what game is in the drive - there's no way to apply an update to any single PS2 game. *Consider this: when you put a PS3 game into your PS3 it shows you "hey, this game [insert name] is in the PS3, you wanna play?" *- What happens when you put in a PS2 game? *It says, "There's some generic PS2 game here!" Instead of calling it by name. *Now if they knew exactly what PS2 game was in the drive, they could call it by name - but since they don't know there's no way to call it by name just like there is no way to apply any update patches.

Sony has to release firmware updates to increase the size of the compatible status list, but that's all Sony's deal - not Namco/Bandai. *And when Sony releases a firmware update that affects backwards compatability, it affects ALL of the PS2 games - not just one or two. *Sony's firmware update was most likely NOT for UN3 but rather some Sony title that happened to have the same bug as UN3 did and UN3 got fixed in the process.*

And no, 60GB PS3s had the emotion engine built in which made them instantly work for all PS2 games (okay maybe not all but what, there's like 6 games it can't play?) - it deferred game playback to the PS2's processor. *I have a 60GB PS3 and UN3 worked from the very first time I played it. *The 80GB PS3 did NOT have the emotion engine, which meant that all PS2 gameplay was handled on the Cell processor. *There was an optional software download from the PlayStation Store to improve the software playback on the 80GB PS3s - it was necessary for some games to play on the 80GB PS3. *This optional download from the PS store doesn't have any affect on a 60GB system since there is no software emulation of the PS2 hardware.



But just because the game hasn't been released yet, doesn't mean that you will have to download an update to be able to play it. *That's only something that Microsoft did with XBox 360. *XBox stopped you from playing a game unless it was on the list of stuff that you could play. *Sony lets you play any PS2 game on a PS2 backwards compatible system even if there are bugs with the backwards compatability. *Some new PS2 games are released that don't need backwards compatability updates at all.

This is because Microsoft and Sony have different ideas about how to approach backwards compatability. *Sony wants to make it so that there's a virtual PS2 inside the PS3. *Microsoft wants to make it so the XBox 360 changes its system settings to look like an XBox with the perfect stats for an individual game. *Thus, Sony's backwards compatability list will always be bigger than Microsoft's since Microsoft does it on a per-game level and Sony does it on a per-system level.

[ronaki]

lol @*JMK1999

you know that tigerc10 is like the smartest guy here right? if he says something is true then its tru he doesnt mistake fake info for real info and he knows how video games work better then anyone else here

[naruto2218]

RONAKI wrote:
lol @*JMK1999

you know that tigerc10 is like the smartest guy here right? if he says something is true then its tru he doesnt mistake fake info for real info and he knows how video games work better then anyone else here



Yeah He's something. glad he's our moderator.

[jmk1999]

RONAKI wrote:
lol @*JMK1999

you know that tigerc10 is like the smartest guy here right? if he says something is true then its tru he doesnt mistake fake info for real info and he knows how video games work better then anyone else here



never said he was or wasn't the smartest guy... i really don't care one way or the other... the point in case was that he wasn't completely right with the instance of this particular game. games, whether it's the developer of sony, don't always work right. he said it was one update to fix everything... now whether he meant that according to each particular update or not, i don't know... this is not always the case. point being, there are often several updates that occur before any given game works on the ps3. uzumaki chronicles took AGES to work. i felt like i totally wasted my money on it. actually, after it finally worked more than a year after i bought it, i still felt like i wasted my money cause it was a lame game... but that's not the point here. uzumaki chronicles never worked... un1 and 2 did... eventually... but that was way before UC did (as though no one cared about fixing that game). i don't know how it works exactly, but to say one update fixes all problems and you're good to go on the ps3 is false. one update may fix it, but that's not the only update you're making to the firmware. he made it sound as though the initial update when you first get the system would allow for all games to work right off the bat (a case that is ONLY true with the 60 GB). mistake in communicating exactly what he meant? maybe. but surely not correct the way he said it to begin with. i would have agreed with him if what he said was in fact true. but it wasn't.



anyway, the point of this discussion is not to argue the process, the point is hoping it's gonna work fairly quickly after the game comes out.