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    Should North America Get A Collector's Ed of NSUNS3 ?

    This Year, Namco Bandai Games inc. (Bandai) & Cyber Connect 2 Will release the next instalment of Ultimate Ninja Storm series. Recently, Namco Bandai Europe branch reveals 2 collectors edition of Ultimate Ninja Storm 3

    Both Editions includes:
    An Exclusive Figure from Banpresto(Naruto or Sasuke)
    Naruto Costume DLC Pack
    A Copy of the Game for PS3 or Xbox 360
    An exclusive Card from Naruto CCG
    Exclusive 2 Sided poster
    And the Sountrack to the Game


    Will of Fire Edition (with Naruto Figure)


    True Dispare Edition (with Sasuke figure)


    should these 2 editions released to North America ?

    What is your thought on this???
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    It sells better in europe then here which is why they are getting a special edition and we likely aren't

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    But you only did ONE collectors edition for the first Storm game. And Storm 2 did great with sells. It made a lot. As a matter of fact all of them did. Its not like Europe but it was A LOT of sales that CyberConnect2 had with these Storm games from all regions especially ours. There can be a collector's edition if you guys let it. If Ni No Kuni, a game series that mostly NO ONE knows about and its new to the states, can get an exclusive collector's edition, how can Naruto Storm 3 can't have one when you cannot even guarantee Ni No Kuni's sells? That doesn't make any sense at all.

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    You watch your mouth about Ni No Kuni. It's a Studio ghibli game who are like the Disney of Japan so you can bet that rpg fans like myself and anime fans know about it. It even got a cover for Game informer.

    It's new so it get's a shot, Naruto however isn't new and while sales are ok it's not exactly lighting the world on fire on the charts either. Maybe it simply isn't worth the money to make a special edition for north america which is the region it sells the least amount in.

    Same for the Tales series, I'd expect Europe to get a special edition over Us because it sells better their. Heck pretty much the only reason we're getting Xilla is because Tales sells decent in Europe and if they have to translate it anyhow then they might as well bring it out over here too

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    "You watch your mouth about Ni No Kuni. It's a Studio ghibli game who are like the Disney of Japan so you can bet that rpg fans like myself and anime fans know about it. It even got a cover for Game informer."

    Me watch my mouth? My whole family and I have been loyal customers of you guys and have bought your products for years and you tell me that? I don't think this is funny. I'm trying to give you my money but you won't let me. So as the lots of people who are wanting a collector's edition. I know about Ni No Kuni way long before the states even saw a glimpse of the series. No it's not a Studio Ghibli game, it's a Level-5 game. Studio Ghibli just worked with them. Like Dragon Quest VIII-Journey of The Cursed King for the PS2. That's not an Akira Toriyama game. That's Level-5's game. As far as I'm concerned Studio Ghibli is more consistent with films than Disney films. Not that I have anything against Disney because I don't. So I think Studio Ghibli should be in a league of it's own which in reality, it is. Barely any Disney films today are hand-drawn. It got a cover for Game Informer because of publicity. Any company can do that. Namco Bandai promotes. Magazine publishers help promote. And your comment jumps to conclusions like I'm hating on Ni No Kuni which you shouldn't do which is wrong of you. I've already pre-ordered the game and paid it in full because I am a fan of Level-5 and Studio Ghibli's works. Hope this eases your tension a little.

    "It's new so it get's a shot, Naruto however isn't new and while sales are ok it's not exactly lighting the world on fire on the charts either. Maybe it simply isn't worth the money to make a special edition for north america which is the region it sells the least amount in."

    That's so hypocritical though. And biased. How does a game and series that is well known like Naruto that people knew before the first Storm game (because of the Ultimate Ninja series for Ps2) not get any more collector's editions anymore when it's clearly doing fine with every game?! Giving a chance to Ni No Kuni? Not that I have a problem with it but that is really biased and unfair. You didn't give a chance to Storm 2 and Generations and those did really good in sales. Like i showed below. The sales are far from terrible or bad to not have a collector's edition. Storm 1 made a lot. And so did Storm 2 and Generations. Try explaining that to me please. Because I want to know. Myself and others are trying to give you more money for a collector's edition for this series and you're not letting us. When it's clearly doing fine! They ship 1 million copies worldwide. It gets divided by regions. Some get more copies than the other region. Doesn't mean the one region with less copies is doing terrible at release or sales in general.

    "Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 Sales Figures"
    http://www.saiyanisland.com/2010/10/...sales-figures/

    "Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 Hits 1 Million"
    http://www.saiyanisland.com/2010/11/...its-1-million/



    "Namco Bandai hoped Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 would have sold 700,000 units by November. The game shipped 1 million copies worldwide; 500,000 in Europe, 340,000 in North America and 160,000 in Japan by November 25, 2010. In May 2011, Namco Bandai reported it became its second best-selling game from 2010 behind Tekken 6 with 1.1 million units sold."
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto_..._Ninja_Storm_2



    "As of July 2012, over one million copies have been sold worldwide with 420,000 units for North America, 420,000 units for Europe and 160,000 units for Asia."
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto_...rm_Generations


    "Naruto Generations – Over 1 Million Copies Sold Worldwide"
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    http://www.saiyanisland.com/2012/08/...old-worldwide/



    As you can see in some of the figures in Europe and US had quite similar numbers in one of the titles. I don't see what's the problem with Namco Bandai of America not putting out a collector's edition over here when its doing just fine. There shouldn't be any excuses.

    I don't know about the Tales series. So I can't answer that. But the Naruto collector's edition situation here in the US does not make any sense at all. If you're able to explain to me why there isn't a collector's edition that would be great so please do explain. But IT IS doing well out here in US like I've stated before.

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    Just a heads up but you should know I am not a Namco Bandai employe and do not speak for the company. I'm a volunteer moderator so anything I say is just my own opinion.

    About Ni no kuni I thought you where insulting it which is why I said what I did about it. I dressed up as the lead character Oliver when I went to Anime north and several people knew who I was with out me having to say anything so I would not put it in the "nobody knows category".

    It IS a game made in full collaboration between Studio Ghibli and Level 5 so it is fair to say it was made by both of them.

    Saiyan Island is NOT a reputable site for week 1 sales numbers as they list no source for where they got those numbers from.
    Also over 1 million shipped world wide does not equal 1 million sold.

    Honestly I don't know why they haven't announced the special edition for North America, I was just speculating on one possible reason.

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    You were speaking for the company at first...

    You went to Anime north and several people knew. When i said nobody knows that basically means the majority of people don't know about it since its a brand new series compared to Naruto.

    I can tell you didn't read the articles correctly. I found my sources at that time of year and it was from Japanese websites and etc. Saiyan Island is legit not fake. They don't post articles that don't have sources or any evidence or proof unless stated as a rumor. If you don't believe me you do the research then because I'm not digging the past all over again just to prove you wrong. It says shipped then says sold afterwards. I know what i sent you. You are not reputable since like you said, you are not really an Namco Bandai employee. I was able to come with info while you just say that Naruto doesn't sell well which is false.

    "Honestly I don't know why they haven't announced the special edition for North America, I was just speculating on one possible reason. "

    Who are you talking about? Saiyan Island? Because Namco Bandai hasn't announced the collector's edition of Storm 3 yet. Namco put it on their website but hasn't made any announcement. So that may be the reason why.

    I wonder why they decide to add a collector's edition now. Not that I'm complaining. But it seems to me it IS worth the money to make a collector's edition. Because it sells well.

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    .It's possible to get the Japanese numbers from Media create but where are they getting the North American numbers? Unless they can actually provide a source (like for example the NPD) for their numbers it could be pulled out of thin air for all we know.

    I read the articular and the first word they used was shipped. They shipped over 1 million copies to stores. It Doesn't mean those stores actually sold all those copies. Video game companies often report shipped to store numbers as "sales".

    Maybe the last collectors edition didn't sell well in comparison to the normal edition here. There are any number of reasons why it might not be released in north america.

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    Its not thin air. Did you read the Wikipedia links? You wouldn't be saying that then. Do you keep track of Naruto news everyday, every year? From Japan and America with company's like Namco Bandai? From all regions it DID sell over ONE MILLION. That's including us. Remember they are divided. Like how do we know what you said is true that Naruto doesn't get collector's editions because it sells better in Europe? And how does it get one now of all times? You don't know. Like I said It doesn't make any sense. There were sources at that time but I'm not going to dig up the past like i said just to prove you wrong. You should prove me wrong that why Naruto doesn't get collector's editions because you claimed it sells better in Europe but it doesn't make sense with the success its had and it did well with sells. Do the research yourself and you'll see that Naruto games DO WELL here in the states with every Storm game. CyberConnect2 president announces how well Naruto does not only in Japan but in all regions. Like I said before regions differ. Especially Japan. Lower sales than the other region doesn't mean its doing poorly or worse.

    "Maybe the last collectors edition didn't sell well in comparison to the normal edition here. There are any number of reasons why it might not be released in north america."

    Oh now its "maybe". Before you said Europe did better with sales than US. What you said just now, I doubt that was the case. BUT you can do the research and find out since you know how to. There's already a Storm 3 collector's edition for the USA. I think there should be an announcement so people can be aware and that would bring bigger sales. I hope they don't just leave the Namco shop there with the Storm 3 ad and not promote it.

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    Wikipedia can be edited by anyone though and their cite note for the numbers they give doesn't even work.

    I had to track down the Namco bandai q1 financials to finally have a reliable source.
    http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/f...20120802_2.pdf

    It still doesn't tell us which region it sold best in though

    Edit: nice of them not to announce the north american special edition at all. Don't count on much advertisement since I hadn't heard sqaut about it until you brought it up.
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